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Monday, October 15th 2012, 12:32am

Ferdinand Jurgen Friedrich ARMBRUST

F J F A was my g'-g'-grandfather. This recent GOOGLE SEARCH revealed this latest information (see below) but when I click the link it comes up ERROR & "That's all we know". Can anyone offer any assistance ? I'll be very grateful indeed. Thank you in advance :)

Bob Armbrust
Port Orange, FL USA

From GOOGLE SEARCH: Click the link " Screen shot 2012 .... " below.

Thank you :)

PS

I don't need technical help, I mean can anyone help find what's in the book(s).

Thanks :)
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This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "norton67" (Oct 15th 2012, 2:09pm) with the following reason: PS I don't need technical help, I mean can anyone help with what's in the book(s). Thanks :)


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Monday, October 15th 2012, 2:38pm

Ferdinand Jürgen Friedrich ARMBRUST

Hello Norton,
I could not find the link of your screenshot. So I searched for Ferdinand J. F. ARMBRUST in general. Maybe this is also helpful for you:

http://www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de/famrep…&modus=&lang=de

This family father´s name is also Ferdinand Jürgen Friedric(h) ARMBRUST and the family members are all born in North Germany.
I hope this can help you!

Julien L. Thiesmann

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 3:50pm

hello Bob,

here is the page you found. Do you need help to read or to translate it?

If you want this picture please send me your mailaddy in pn.


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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 6:00pm

Hello and thank you :) Yes Kara, I would love to have a translation of the info on that page. From what I can tell it looks like just No. 4 & 5 apply to my g'g'grandfather and (I think) his ship but more if you think I should have it. I'd also like to have the name and etc. of the book it is listed in.

Thank you ver much. It's exciting to find things from the past :)

Sincerely,

Bob A.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 6:07pm

To Julien Thiesmann

Thank you for responding Julien :) I do already have that information but I'm grateful for your response none the less, the more the merrier :)

Best wishes,

Bob A. :danke:

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 7:54pm

hello Bob,

the title of the book is "Schleswig-Holsteinische Anzeigen für das Jahr 1861"

the text on page 123

Nr 4. is about a man named Ludwig Friedrich Speeßen, I think this is not of interest for you

Nr 5.

Zweite Bekanntmachung.

Es ist Seitens Beikommender dieselbst angezeigt worden, daß der Capitain D.Thiessen, führend das hiesige Schiff "Johannes", am 2. April d.J. in offener See, ungefähr 20 Meilen westwärts von Helgoland, ein von der Mannschaft gänzlich verlassenes Schiff, welches sich demnächst als ein mit ( Oelsachen ? ) beladener Hamburger Galeo?ewer "Ferdinand", Capitain Ferdinand Jürgen Friedrich Armbrust, von Hamburg nach Brügge bestimmt, ausgewiesen, treibend gefunden, dasselbe geborgen und in den hiesigen Hafen gebracht habe.
In dieser Veranlassung werden alle Diejenigen, welche an vorgedachtes Schiff oder dessen Ladung, für deren Inventierung und sonstige Sicherung die nöthige Sorge getragen und deren gesammtwerth auf ungefähr 6333 1/3 ? R.=M. oder 9500 ? Hamb. Bco. veranschlagt ist, Ansprüche zu haben gleuben, hiedurch aufgefordert. selbige innerhalb 12 Wochen, von der letzten Bekanntmachung angerechnet, mit ihren Beweisdocumenten bei dem Ober=Präsidium hieselbst anzugeben, worauf sie nach Bestellung gehöriger Bevollmächtigten fernere rechtliche Verfügungen zu gegenwärtigen haben. Der öffentliche Verkauf der Ladung hat, um selbige dem Verderb oder der Entwerthung zu entziehen, bereits verfügt werden müssen.
Königl. Ober=Präsidium zu Altona, den 13.April 1861

in the same book on page 127/128

Nr 7.
Dritte und letzte Bekanntmachung

same text as above

I'm sorry but someone other has to translate this, I have problems with translating that old german text.

Kara

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Wednesday, October 17th 2012, 12:02am

translation

Hello Kara,

Thank you for posting that page. I ran it through a Google translation which I know is not the best but it looks like my g'g'grandfather came upon a ship adrift and brought it back into port from what I can determine. This is the crude Google translation:



Second notice.

It has been shown the part Beikommender dieselbst, that the captain D.Thiessen, the local leader ship "John", on 2 April d.J. determined in the open sea, about 20 mileswest of Heligoland, one of the team completely abandoned ship, which is soon as onewith (Oelsachen?) loaded Hamburg Galeo? ewer "Ferdinand", Captain Jürgen Friedrich Ferdinand Armbrust, from Hamburg to Bruges, have reported, found adrift,salvaged and brought to the same local port.
In this occasion, all those who thought of pre-ship or its cargo, for the invert and other security taken the requisite care and whose? Total value to approximately 6333 third R= M. or 9500? Hamb. Bco. estimated, claims to have is gleuben, prompted by this means. selbige within 12 weeks of the last publication count, with their evidenceDOCUMENTS at the top = specify Bureau hieselbst what they have to order relatedproxy distant legal injunctions to present. The public sale of the cargo to avoidspoilage or selbige Entwerthung, must be already available.
Königl. Upper = Bureau to Altona, the April 13, 1861

I know that FJFA owned and captained a the schooner Ferdinand by Christie's Ship Register 1858. I welcome any and all comments on this thread of posts by anyone who may have anything / any thoughts to offer. Also any further / additional translations of the info contained will be most appreciated.Thank you so much, one and all :danke: Bob A.

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Wednesday, October 17th 2012, 1:34pm

hello Bob,

not your ancestor found this ship "Ferdinand", the ship was found by Capitain D.Thiessen with noone on board. Thiessen brougt the ship back.

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Wednesday, October 17th 2012, 3:28pm

The type of ship was a "Galeaßewer" (Galeassewer, Galeasse) which I found explained on this page .

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Friday, October 19th 2012, 3:09pm

ship(s)

Hello Kara,

I'm confused. I'm sure my g'g'grandfather's ship was the Ferdinand. Am I reading the translated page incorrectly ? It seems the Ferdinand was the ship that brought the abandoned ship back.

Thanks,
:)


Bob A.

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Friday, October 19th 2012, 3:28pm

The ship "Johannes" ("John" in your translation) with Capitain Theissen brought the abandoned "Ferdinand" back. Capitain Armbrust is mentioned as the owner the ship "Ferdinand", but not onboard, in fact nobody seems to have been onboard of this ship.
Do you have further track of your ancestor, any hint what became of him?

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Friday, October 19th 2012, 11:18pm

Ferdinand et al:

Hello M.I.F.E.

The only info I have about my ancestor F J F A is that he owned and captained the schooner Ferdinand ( Christie's Ship Register 1858 ) and that he "died at sea" 1863. I'd like to know anything more.


Thanks,

Bob A.