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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 9:26pm

Erbherr auf Mellen

Dear German friends

I live in Brazil and I ´m doing a research about my German family.

My ancestor ,Johann Friedrich Struve ,born 1680,was "Wirklich Königl . Dänischer Major der Kavallerie und Erbherr auf Mellen".

What is the meaning of "Erbherr auf Mellen"?I know nothing about Heraldry and German nobility.

Would you explain this expression ?I thank you so much for your help.

Ligia

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Sunday, November 11th 2012, 12:11am

Zu dieser Anfrage
darf von Herrn v. Roy unter :
http://heraldik-wappen.de/viewtopic.php?p=61761#61761
angemerkt werden:

The term 'Erbherr' is easy to explain: the major was the o w n e r - but not a renter (!) - of the Mellen estate.

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Monday, November 12th 2012, 1:01am

Erbherr auf Mellen

Dear Bilet

Thank you so much for your help.My ancestor lived in Glückstadt and I found the information that he was Erbherr auf Mellen in my great-great grandmothers

birth register .I would like to know where is Mellen,so that I could continue my research.

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Monday, November 12th 2012, 9:53am

Hello Ligia,

Quoted

I would like to know where is Mellen


Good question. There are at least two candidates in northern Germany.

http://mellen.kreis-regenwalde.de/

OR

http://www.facebook.com/mellen.prignitz
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenzen_(Elbe)

Or maybe even
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melle

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Simone
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Monday, November 12th 2012, 4:02pm

Zur Frage, wo das Gut M e l l e n wohl gelegen haben mag
Erbherr auf Mellen
darf ergänzend von Herrn v. Roy unter :
http://heraldik-wappen.de/viewtopic.php?p=61769#61769
angemerkt werden:

The name Mellen resp. Moellen is a widespread one in Northern Germany. The name derives from a 'mill' (nowadays: eine Muehle), cf. the name of the two cities Moelln (in the 17th century: Molne resp. Mollen) and Meldorf (in the 17th century: Mildorp) in Holstein and of the two villages Mehlbek (in the 17th century: Meelbeck resp. Melbeke) and Mehlby in Holstein.

You may imagine that the Mellen estate of JOHANN FRIEDRICH STRUVE was located in the Glueckstadt (in the 17th century: Luckstadt resp. Geluckstadt) area. To find the estate you need even a better map than this map of 1650: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co…ormarn_1650.jpg

There is an old family STRUVE of Braunschweig that got a Russian patent of nobility in 1782. The genealogy of this VON STRUVE family is to be found in the „Gothaisches Genealogisches Taschenbuch der Adeligen Häuser“, Teil B, Gotha 1938 (!!) and 1942.

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Tuesday, November 13th 2012, 9:33pm

Erbherr auf Mellen

Dear Simone

Dear Billet

I've been searching my German family for five years .I think that it will not be easy to find this Mellen...

How can I obtain the adresses of the archives of these places?

Thank you so much for the information and the beautiful map.

Best Regards

Ligia

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Thursday, November 15th 2012, 11:09pm

Erbherr auf Möllenvoigt

In my research for the Struve family, I found Georg Adam Struve (1619-1692-Magdeburg),son of Bartholomäus Struve ,Erbherr auf Wanzleben und

Möllenvoigt des Erzbistums Magdeburg (1588-Cramme -1650). Should Möllenvoigt be the Mellen which is in Glückstadt church entry?

Thank you for your help.

Ligia