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Thursday, November 12th 2015, 10:14pm

Gustav Maßheimer

Joe.

The clip concerning the casuality list of WWI says that

Gustav Maßheimer
* 14 January 1887 in Reichenau [=Richnau], Kreis Briesen
was seriously wounded
and according to some private information prisoner of war
on 1 October 1914
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My latest finding:

Ottilie MASHEIMER
* 1880 (3 yrs and 3 mths old) in Dorf Richnau
living in Dorf Richnau
Father: Einwohner Carl MASHEIMER
Mother: Eva née STILLER, both residents of Dorf Richnau
+ 9 October 1883 at 3 pm in Dorf Richnau
Informant: her father
Source: Civil Registry Office Richnau in Wangerin, Kreis Briesen, No. 66/1883

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Thursday, November 12th 2015, 11:12pm

Thanks Willi,

I cannot imagine losing children like they did back then.

Perhaps this Gustav survived he war. I am looking now.

Joe

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Thursday, November 12th 2015, 11:24pm

No problem Simone, just wanted to make sure that I did not have something wrong (which truthfully is not unlikely). Having dealt with the Polish archives via mail, I know you are right about the Family History Center being easier.

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Friday, November 13th 2015, 11:34am

Joe.

I happened to find one more Masheimer girl:

Eva Rosalie Ottilie MASHEIMER
* 20 October 1884 at 10 am in Dorf Richnau
Father: Einwohner Carl MASHEIMER
Mother: Eva née STILLER, both Evangelical and living in Dorf Richnau
Informant: her father

Source: Civil Registry Office Richnau, now in Hofleben, Kreis Briesen, No. 117/1884

By the way the Westpreußen email address works since my mail hasn't been bounced back yet. So try again.

Have a nice day.

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Friday, November 13th 2015, 6:49pm

Willi,

I am embarrassed to say that I did not spell the email address correctly. I have sent all of the information to them.

Guten Tag!

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Saturday, November 14th 2015, 1:17am

My thoughts are with all of you in Europe with the awfulness going on in Paris. I pray these attacks are not repeated elsewhere.

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Saturday, December 5th 2015, 6:32pm

MASSHEIMER oo Jahn

Joe.

Another finding:

Hermann Ernst MASSHEIMER
worker, Evangelical Lutheran, ignorant of writing
* 20 Feb. 1872 in Steinau (called Neu Kamionken before), Kreis [county] Thorn
residing at Steinau
Father: Carl MASSHEIMER, worker
Mother: Henriette née BOTT, both deceased
and
Carolina Luisa Augusta JAHN
domestic helper [Dienstmagd], Evangelical
* 12 June 1865 in Zanow [possibly Kreis Köslin, Pomerania]
residing at Steinau
Father: Johann Carl Wilhelm JAHN, worker
Mother: Carolina Friederika née SCHMIDT, both deceased
oo 4 Dec. 1905 in Kielbasin
Witnesses:
1) Carl Bott, miller, 25 years old
2) Hermann Steinacker, wheelwright, 35 years old, both residents of Steinau

Source: Civil Registry Office Friedenau in Kielbasin, Kreis Thorn, Marriages No. 23/1905

I wonder if the groom's father is identical or related in some way to your Carl Masheimer. The groom might be a son of a possilbe first marriage. Just a guess!

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Saturday, December 5th 2015, 6:45pm

Yeah...that's the only thing I can think of....church records will be the only thing to solve that. Then again, this record shows Carl dead in 1905 and I think he was the witness on the civil registry record for the illegitimate Gustav born 1905 and killed in WWII. I guess this was December. If anything this might also indicate the elder Carl's year of death. I'm going to the death records now.

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Saturday, December 5th 2015, 6:52pm

Of course....the archives don't have the deaths from 1905.....

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Monday, February 8th 2016, 12:28pm

Bethel oo MASHEIMER

Hello, Joe.
Wilhelm Erich Bethel
* Feb. 21, 1903 at 7 am in Gut Richnau
Civil Registry Richnau, No. 33/1903
Father: Coachman [Kutscher] Fritz Bethel
Mother: Martha née Masheimer, both residing at Gut [estate] Richnau
I happened to find one more child of the couple above:

Grethe Olga BETHEL
* 15 March 1909 at 1 pm in Colmansfeld [formerly Chelmonie]
Father: "Wirt auf dem Gute Colmansfeld" [farmer of the estate of Colmansfeld] Fritz BETHEL
Mother: Martha née MASHEIMER,
both Evangelical Lutheran and living in Colmansfeld
Informant: her father
Source: Civil Registry Office Colmansfeld (Chelmonie), temporarily in Drewenzwald, Kreis Briesen, Births No. 15/1909

Greetings

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Monday, February 8th 2016, 2:30pm

Guten Tag Willi,

Not sure what your opinion is, but based on Wilhelm's birth record I am guessing that Martha is likely Carl's sister. I have added Martha and the Bethel's to my tree. I am still stumped by the Carl married to Henriette Bott. I cannot wait for the church records to come onto Archion so I can figure it out. I have been told that I can write the central church archives, but it seems that I will need at least the years of occurrence for them to look for the records. Interestingly, I recently did a search of the Masheimer name on Facebook and located people living in the same area in Poland as well as around Berlin (where the Gtustav killed in WWII had moved to).

I recently wrote the WAST and requested the military records of both Gustav's. Unfortunately, they will not give me the records of the Gustav killed in 1942 because I am not a direct descendant and do not have his family's permission. They were kind enough to tell me that the records of the Gustav wounded in WWI were destroyed in Berlin during 1945.

Thanks again for your help. As we say in the states (mostly around New Orleans), Happy Mardi Gras! Stay safe!


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Thursday, April 14th 2016, 8:13pm

Maassheimer in Gollub

Hello Joe,

one more find which might be of interest to you:

Gertrud MAASSHEIMER [sic!]
* 12 May 1908 at 4 am in Gollub in the home the working woman Katharina MAASSHEIMER
Mother: unmarried maid Martha MAASSHEIMER, Evangelical Lutheran, resident of Gollub
Informant: Midwife Marie Borowski née Wisniewski, resident of Gollub

Source: Civil Office Registry Gollub, Kreis Briesen, Births, No. 58/1908

Klara MAASSHEIMER [sic!]
* 28 April 1904 at 11.45 pm in Gollub in the home of the informant
Mother: unmarried servant Martha MAASSHEIMER, Ev.-Luth., resident of Gollub
Informant: unmarried working woman Katharina MAASSHEIMER, resident of Gollub, ignorant of writing

Source: see above, Births, No. 54/1904

Greetings,

Willi

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Willi Beutler" (Apr 16th 2016, 4:52pm) with the following reason: Additional information


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Saturday, April 16th 2016, 8:56pm

Willi,

Thanks again for a another gem. I know that their church was Schonsee, which was also at one point in Gollub (obviously same area). Martha appears to be the elder Carl's sister, so I assume their mother was Katharina. This is the first time I have encountered this spelling of their name. If Archion ever gets this area digitized I will match everything up.

Thanks again,

Joe

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Monday, April 18th 2016, 6:39pm

Katharina Maßheimer

Guten Tag, Joe,

my latest finds:

Pauline Ernestine MAßHEIMER
* 15 Feb. 1894 at 5 am in Gollub in the home of the worker Peter Fialkowski
Mother: unmarried servant Katharina MAßHEIMER, Evangelical Lutheran, resident of Gollub
Informant: Eva Fialkowski née Gogalinski, Catholic, resident of Gollub and Peter's wife, ignorant of writing
Source: Civil Registry Office Gollub, Kreis Briesen, Births, No. 14/1894

Emil MAßHEIMER
* 9 Apr. 1884 at 9 am in Gollub
Mother: unmarried Catharina MAßHEIMER, Evangelical Lutheran, resident of Gollub
Informant: Midwife Wilhelmine Jaguschewska née Krüger [Krueger], Evangelical Lutheran, resident of Gollub
Source: see above, Births, No. 40/1884

Greetings,

Willi

Additional information of 4/28/2016:
Emil MAßHEIMER, Evangelical Lutheran
* 9 Apr. 1884 in Gollub
resident of Gollub
Mother: unmarried Catharina MAßHEIMER living in Thorn, Kreis Thorn, W. Prussia
+ 26 May 1885 at 2 pm in Gollub
Informant: Auguste Froelian née Perlink, widow of a worker, resident of Gollub, ignorant of writing
Source: Civil Registry Office of Gollub City, Kreis Briesen, Deaths, No. 42/1884

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "Willi Beutler" (Apr 28th 2016, 8:00pm) with the following reason: Additional information


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Tuesday, May 24th 2016, 8:47am

Klara MAAßHEIMER

Guten Tag, Joe,
Klara MAASSHEIMER [sic!]
* 28 April 1904 at 11.45 pm in Gollub in the home of the informant
Mother: unmarried servant Martha MAASSHEIMER, Ev.-Luth., resident of Gollub
Informant: unmarried working woman Katharina MAASSHEIMER, resident of Gollub, ignorant of writing
Her death record:

Klara MAAßHEIMER, Evangelical Lutheran
* April 1904 (2 months old) in Gollub
Mother: unmarried servant Martha MAAßHEIMER, resident of Briesen, Kreis Briesen
+ 15 June 1904 at 10 am in Gollub
Informant: unmarried working woman Katharina MAAßHEIMER, resident of Gollub

Source: Birth registers Civil Registry Office Gollub, Kreis Briesen, No. 24/1904

Greetings,

Willi

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 9:13pm

Gertrud MAASSHEIMER

Hello Joe,
Gertrud MAASSHEIMER [sic!]
* 12 May 1908 at 4 am in Gollub in the home the working woman Katharina MAASSHEIMER
She died in Gollub on 16 June 1908 at 4 am, age 4 weeks.
Her mother Martha MAASSHEIMER, servant in Gollub, informed the civil registry officer.
Source: Civil Registry Office Gollub, Kreis Briesen, Deaths 1908, No. 41/1908

Greetings,
Willi

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Friday, November 18th 2016, 10:07pm

Maaßheimer

Hi Joe,

I recently found this:

Jacob MAAßHEIMER
inhabitant of Zakroczewo [couldn't find a place spelt like this, obviously Zakrzewo, Kreis Kulm]
* about 1829 (28 years old), widower, Evangelical Lutheran
and
Caroline KIRCHER
* about 1834 (23 years old), single, Ev.-Lutheran
resident of Zakroczewo
Father: Johann KIRCHER, joiner, living in Neu Skompe, Kreis Thorn
oo Nov. 3, 1857 in Kulm
Source: Evangelical Church Kulm, Marriages 1772-1897, Marriage 55/1857, p. 35

and

Johann JUNG
inhabitant of Senskowo [couldn't find any place called like this, wrong spelling?]
* about 1832 (25 years old), single, Ev.-Lutheran
and
Caroline MAAßHEIMER
resident of Klein Czyste, Kreis Kulm
* abt 1834 (23 years old), single, Ev.-Lutheran
Father: inhabitant Gottfried MAAßHEIMER, deceased in Kulm
oo Aug. 6, 1857 in Kulm
Source: see above, Marriage 28/1857, page 32

Johann WIESE
inhabitant of Wichorze, single, Ev.-Lutheran
* abt. 1825 (25 years old)
Father: inhabitant Paul WIESE, deceased in Wichorze
and
Rosina MAßHEIMER, single, Ev.-Lutheran
* abt. 1825 (25 years old)
resident of Klein Czyste, Kreis Kulm
Father: inhabitant MAßHEIMER [no first name given], deceased in Skompe, Kreis Thorn
oo September 15, 1850 in Kulm
Source: Evangelical Marriages Kulm 1772-1940, Marriages 1850, p. 130, no. 54 [picture 401]

Greetings,

Willi

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Willi Beutler" (Nov 19th 2016, 12:33pm) with the following reason: Additional information


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Saturday, November 19th 2016, 5:53pm

Willi,

Thanks again. I am trying to piece all of these together. I am thinking that it will all make even more sense when the Archion has the church records available that cover my great grandfather's birth. Its obvious these are all relatives.

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Tuesday, November 22nd 2016, 9:31pm

Rosin oo MAßHEIMER

Joe.

One more finding:

Friedrich ROSIN
servant in Klein Czyste, Kreis Kulm
* abt. 1818 (26 years old), youngest son
Father: Jacob ROSIN, owner, deceased in Topolinken, Kreis Kulm
and
Elisabeth MAßHEIMER
* abt. 1816 (28 years odl), 2nd daughter
Father: Jacob MAßHEIMER, deceased in Alt Kamiontken, Kreis Thorn
oo Nov. 10, 1844 in Kulm
Source: Evangelical Lutheran Parish Kulm, Marriages 1772-1940 Kulm-Land, Marriages 1844, p. 36/37, no. 66

Greetings,
Willi

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Saturday, December 10th 2016, 9:56am

Bethel oo MASHEIMER

Joe...

The following marriage record might be of interest to you:

Jakob Fritz BETHEL
Knecht [farm-hand], Evangelical Lutheran
Birth: 25 July 1863 in Hofleben, Kreis Briesen
Residence: Gut Richnau, Kreis Briesen
Father: Arbeiter [worker] Heinrich BETHEL
Mother: Charlotte née KÖBEL, both living in Gut Richnau
and
Martha Luise Henriette MASHEIMER
Scharwerkerin [A woman who was signed on working for an estate owner for a certain time], Evangelical Lutheran
Birth: 9 February 1874 in Dorf Richnau, Kreis Briesen
Residence: Gut Richnau
Father: Einwohner [inhabitant] Karl MASHEIMER
Mother: Eva née STILLER, both living in Gut Richnau
Marriage: 30 December 1893 in Silbersdorf
Witnesses:
1) Father of the bride, 45 years old
2) Farmer August Bukowski, 33 years old, living in Gut Richnau
Marginal remark:
Wife Martha BETHEL née MAßHEIMER [sic!] died in Herten, Kreis Recklinghausen, Nordrhein-Westfalen on 26 April 1944, Standesamt Herten (Westfalen), no. 192/1944.

Source: Heiratshauptregister [main marriage records] Standesamt [civil registry office] Richnau, some time in Silbersdorf, Kreis Briesen, no. 27/1893

... Willi