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Monday, February 8th 2016, 6:23pm

Grage Family in Siblin and Kreutzfeld

Guten Tag,

I am looking to see if anyone has information on the Grage family in and around these two villages. I have the following so far:

Hinrich Grage b. abt 1730
Johann Christopher Grage b. abt 1754
Jochen Heinrich Grage b. abt 1784
Gottfried Ferdinand Grage b.. abt 1830

I have some of the siblings of these, but not alot. I am looking to tie into other parts of the Grage family tree to see who my relatives in Germany and the USA are. Any information anyone has about this family is greatly appreciated.

Joe Grage

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Tuesday, February 9th 2016, 1:33pm

Hello,

i found not so much, but!!!

Siblin --> Gut Siblin --> look here
it a very small village, only few buildings, some of them look here
Gut Siblin today map

peoples who lived there:

Quelle VZ 1803 Siblin, Dorf
Ort / Kirchspiel Sieblien, Dorf / Sarau, Kirchspiel

Dorotea Gragen
Geburtsdatum: 1786
Alter: 17
Beruf: Dienstbote
Familienstand: ledig

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peoples who lived in the church district Ahrensbök, means near by Siblin:

Quelle VZ 1803 / Barghorst, Dorf
Ort / Kirchspiel Barghorst, Dorf / Ahrensbök, Kirchspiel

Katrina Elsabe Gragen
Geburtsdatum: 1777
Alter: 26

Hans Hinrich Steen
Geburtsdatum: 1776
Alter: 27
Beruf: Eigenkätner mit Land

2 Kinder

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Quelle VZ 1803 / Holstendorf, Dorf
Ort / Kirchspiel Holstendorf, Dorf / Ahrensbök, Kirchspiel

Mattias Grage
Geburtsdatum: 1746
Alter: 57
Beruf: Arbeitsmann
Status: Mietsmann
2 Ehen

Maria Elisabeth Thielen
Geburtsdatum: 1758
Alter: 45

Kind 1:
Peter Kristian Grage
Geburtsdatum: 1794
Alter: 9

Kind 2:
Hans Hinrich Grage
Geburtsdatum: 1797
Alter: 6

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Quelle VZ 1803 / Ahrensbök, Flecken Ort / Kirchspiel Ahrensbök, Flecken / Ahrensbök, Kirchspiel

Anna Christina Gragen
Geburtsdatum: 1758
Alter: 45

Hans Detlev Wiese
Geburtsdatum: 1751
Alter: 52
Beruf: Amtspförtner

3 Kinder

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Quelle VZ 1769 / Ahrensbök, Flecken Ort / Kirchspiel Ahrensbök, Flecken / Ahrensbök, Kirchspiel

Catharina Gragen
Geburtsdatum: 1691
Alter: 78
Familienstand: Witwe

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Quelle VZ 1769 / Spechserholz, Dorf
Ort / Kirchspiel Spechserholz, Dorf / Ahrensbök, Kirchspiel

Anna Margr. Petersen, geb. Grage
Geburtsdatum: 1731
Alter: 38

Hinrich Petersen
Geburtsdatum: 1719
Alter: 50

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VZ = Volkszählung = census

Gruß
Helmut

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Tuesday, February 9th 2016, 4:31pm

Danke Helmut!

I should also mention that almost all were all baptised at Kirche Sarau. I wonder if the name Grage is a shortened version of Gragen. Interesting! Thank you!

Joe

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Tuesday, February 9th 2016, 4:38pm

I wonder if the name Grage is a shortened version of Gragen.

Hello Joe,

How do you prounounce the name ? is it with a soft G in the middle like Graje ?
That would be the most likely american pronounciation, but probably the N in Gragen (Grajen) would often be 'swallowed' or dropped , so that the name then became Grage (Graje)

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Tuesday, February 9th 2016, 5:40pm

Hi Bob,

My part of the family tree pronounces it Gray-je, but I have heard another part of the tree in my area near Chicago (my 2nd great grandfather who came from Siblin had 9 children, so I have my work cut out for me) pronounces it Grah-ge. So far I am back to 1730 with the name appearing as Grage, but I have often wondered whether it was shortened or not because I have seen a number of possible variants (Graage, Grages, Grager). The Graage variant looks like a Danish spelling to me, but there are also people with the name Grage (i.e. Danish Olympic speedskater). I hired Klaus Struve in Kiel to do some research for me last year and got quite a bit, but as you probably know that kind of thing can get pricey in the long run. I am hoping that the church books wind up on Archion one day, but I am not holding my breath because that whole project seems to have stalled and Evangelical Lutheran Church in Northern Germany is very protective of their books and the information. I had to sign an agreement not to publish the records I received, which means I cannot post them anywhere...including my family tree on Ancestry.

Joe

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Wednesday, February 10th 2016, 7:33pm

Hello again,

do you know this site ? please try here

you´ll find more as 700 Grage´s lived in Schleswig-Holstein 1800+ but born from 1691 - 1899

try the search
--> Grage (over 700 listed) could be interesting to find other villages near by Kreuzfeld and Siblin
--> Grage and Kreutzfeld
--> Grage and Siblin, Sieblien

do not forget to go to „ Show complete Household”

I found at this side:

VZ 1803 / Siblin, Dorf
Ort / Kirchspiel Sieblien, Dorf / Sarau, Kirchspiel

Johann Hinrich Scheel
Geburtsdatum 1755
Beruf Grobschmied / und Eigenkätner ohne Land / Hausvater

Anna Elsabe Beuk
Geburtsdatum 1759

Kinder:
1. Anna Kristina Scheel Geburtsdatum 1788
2. Anna Maria Scheel Geburtsdatum 1792
3. Johann Friedrich Scheel Geburtsdatum 1793
4. August Peter Scheel Geburtsdatum 1796
5. Hans Friedrich Scheel Geburtsdatum 1798
6. August Scheel Geburtsdatum 1800

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Ort: Sieblien [Siblin], Dorf
Kirchspiel: Sarau, Kirchspiel
today written Siblin

Ort: Kreutzfeld, Dorf
Kirchspiel: Plön, Kirchspiel
today written Kreuzfeld

greetings from Lübeck
Helmut

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "S.C." (Feb 10th 2016, 7:37pm)


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Thursday, February 11th 2016, 3:53pm

Helmut,

That is a great site! There are more Grages than I imagined. I have much work to do!

Joe

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Thursday, February 11th 2016, 5:13pm

joe

i have forgotten to write a little help to find very fast the places where the persons live on the AKVZ side.

try with the name Grage the button "Verteilung auf Karte anzeigen".