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Saturday, March 19th 2016, 11:12am

Ich brauche Richtungen

Viele Grüßen!
My name is Andrea Genung and I am from the U.S. I am trying to research my 2nd maternal great-grandfather.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi…04&ref=acom
This is the grave marker for my 2nd great grandfather "Frank Robert Schumann". According to census records, he arrived in the United States in 1882 from Germany. He was born 22 September 1863. He died tragically in 1904.

I have found a record of his brother Charles H Schumann born 1867 in Reichenbach, Chemnitzerland, Germany. My family has been disconnected from this branch of the family for some time. Many in my family did not even know that Grandfather Frank had a brother.

I would appreciate any information that might be found my ancestors. As Frank died suddenly, all of his heritage is lost.

Also, Ich kan ein bischen Deutsch sprechen und lesen.

Vielen Dank,
Andrea Ferry :danke:

assi.d.

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Saturday, March 19th 2016, 1:13pm

Hello Andrea,

it should be the Reichenbach in Vogtland. It s next to Chemnitz. Maybe you should post your question again in the Sub foum of Saxonia.

Greetings

Assi

Und was ich nicht ändern kann, da bleibe ich weiter dran... (Herbert Grönemeyer)

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Saturday, March 19th 2016, 1:26pm

Hallo,

ich habe das Thema nach Sachsen verschoben.
Viele Grüße
Henriette :)

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Saturday, March 19th 2016, 3:55pm

Vielen Dank! Von einem "newbie".

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Saturday, March 19th 2016, 5:27pm

If there is access to resources where I might find these relatives on my own, please point me in the right direction.

I have also thought about going to Germany on my own to research. But I would not know where I should go once I arrived in Reichenbach.

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Tuesday, March 22nd 2016, 8:19pm

Hi,

I think someone should tell you where you can find the church records. Were they catholic or lutheran?


Wer kann helfen und sagen wo die evangelischen KB von Reichenbach bei Chemnitz liegen?

Danke im voraus.

Assi

Und was ich nicht ändern kann, da bleibe ich weiter dran... (Herbert Grönemeyer)

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "assi.d." (Mar 23rd 2016, 3:38pm)


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Wednesday, March 23rd 2016, 12:54pm

Sie war nicht Katholisch.

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Monday, March 28th 2016, 7:09pm

Hello Andrea,

as far as I know, you have to write to/contact the parish "Ev.-Luth. Kirchgemeinde Reichenbach" to order a copy of the birth-record.
Address and mail you can find here: http://www.ev-kirche-reichenbach.de/index.php/kontakt

In case of BMD records after 1876 you have to write to the Stadtarchiv, Frau Marion Igl: http://www.reichenbach-vogtland.de/deuts…ecID=134&Type=1

Some addressbooks of Reichenbach can be found online here: http://adressbuecher.sachsendigital.de/projekt/
Be careful that you choose Reichenbach im Vogtland.
Liebe Grüsse
UrsulaK

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 10:46am

[quote='UrsulaK','index.php?page=Thread&postID=374166#post374166']Hello Andrea,

as far as I know, you have to write to/contact the parish "Ev.-Luth. Kirchgemeinde Reichenbach" to order a copy of the birth-record.
Address and mail you can find here: [url]http://www.ev-kirche-reichenbach.de/index.php/kontakt[/url]

In case of BMD records after 1876 you have to write to the Stadtarchiv, Frau Marion Igl: [url]http://www.reichenbach-vogtland.de/deutsch/unsere-stadt/buergerservice/?RecID=134&Type=1[/url]

Some addressbooks of Reichenbach can be found online here: [url]http://adressbuecher.sachsendigital.de/projekt/[/url]
Be careful that you choose Reichenbach im Vogtland.[/quote]SUCCESS!!!
I received the documents I wanted.
Can someone help me understand the abbreviations?
agenung has attached the following file:
  • Baptism.jpg (28.35 kB - 17 times downloaded - latest: Jun 6th 2016, 12:43pm)

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 12:15pm

Hello Andrea,

this is a dublicate for the Baptism of F R A N Z , R O B E R T , S C H U M A N N in old german.

Baptism-index of ev.-lutheran Peter-Paul-chirch in Reichenbach
Year: 1863 Site: 527 Number: 416

Baptizand: ( born ) the Two and Twentyth September ( 22 Sep ) Night at Eleven Clock in Reichenbach ,
Franz Robert,
Baptismday: the Eleventh October

Father: Carl Wilhelm Schumann,
toolmaker in Ronneburg is specified as the father, which is known to.

Mother: Wilhelmine, master Johann Gottlieb Fuchs, Citizen and clothmaker here ( Reichenbach) youngest legitimate daughter


Generated outside of marriage. ( illegitimate )


Reichenbach 14 Apr 2016 Seal ev-luth pastoral office

Best regards

Steffen

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Wednesday, May 25th 2016, 12:55pm

Caution!
Illegitimate childs are named after her mother if they are not adopted by the father (which we don't know from this copy!).
And "toolmaker" (Zeugmacher in german) is a bad transcription, also as the word "master" for the father of Wilhelmine.

Quoted

True copy from the baptism register
of the lutheran church "Peter-Paul" in Reichenbach
Year 1863 page 527 number 416

Baptizand:

{Born} on the twentieth-second of September at
eleven o'clock at night in Reichenbach,
Franz Robert,
baptized on the eleventh of October

Father:

Carl Wilhelm Schumann,
Zeugmacher {= cloth-maker, producing cloths only from sheep wool} from Ronnrburg {Ronneburg} has been named as father,
who has confirmed it.

Mother:

Wilhelmine; Johann Gottlieb Fuchs, married {= Matr.} citizen {B. = Bürger} and cloth-maker {= Tuchmacher} here {= Reichenbach},
youngest daughter born in marriage.

Illegitimate born child.


Godparents:


My addendums are set in {...}.

So, FRANZ ROBERT FUCHS (*22.9.1863, bapt. 10.10.1863) was an illegitimate child of Carl Wilhelm Schumann from Ronneburg and Wilhelmine Fuchs from Reichenbach.
If Carl Wilhelm and Wilhelmine would have been married at a later date (as I said, we don't know this from this source), it is possible that he is known then as "Franz Robert Schumann" -- if not, the correct name would be "Franz Robert Fuchs".

Greetings/Grüße,
Jochen

This post has been edited 6 times, last edit by "Jour" (May 25th 2016, 1:12pm)